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|smile2meornot||Posted - 19 November 2001 23:03
it is SO ANNYOING!!! i can never ever in school daven with enough cavana because as fast as I go, while my class is up to shemoneh esrei i am up to shima! i dont understadn how they can daven so fast!!! we are all like 14 or fifteen, we go to B.Y. and like they always tell us "daven with cavana" and like even to be up to shema wen they r at shemone esrei i must like go SOO FAST and like the bell always rings while im in the middle of shemone esrei and so i am so rushed and it is so annoying!!! it is driving me insane - how can i get a good connnection when i am so pressed for time! please answer soon, thanks- Me
|danny||Posted - 20 November 2001 22:21
<it is SO ANNYOING!!! i can never ever in school daven with enough cavana because as fast as I go, while my class is up to shemoneh esrei i am up to shima! i dont understadn how they can daven so fast!!! we are all like 14 or fifteen, we go to B.Y. and like they always tell us "daven with cavana" and like even to be up to shema wen they r at shemone esrei i must like go SOO FAST and like the bell always rings while im in the middle of shemone esrei and so i am so rushed and it is so annoying!!! it is driving me insane - how can i get a good connnection when i am so pressed for time! please answer soon, thanks- Me>
You are not alone. In many minyanim, they fly through Shacharis like a bullet train. What I do is begin davening 5 minutes earlier and daven ahead up to "habocher be'amo yisrael be'ahava" right before krias shma. At this point, you can still answer amen and borchu. Then start shma together with everyone else and you should reach shmoneh esrei together. Then recite the shmone esrei at your own pace. Good luck.
|ptgard2281||Posted - 27 November 2001 1:52
I can't stand it when the men rush through davening at shul -- it's like they are in a rush to go somewhere. The women really want to concentrate and not mumble words and stuff -- can't someone start a worldwide campaign to get the men to slow it down? This is especially a bother during the yamim noraim.
|smile2meornot||Posted - 27 November 2001 1:52
thanks for ur suggestion.but you see, i cant daven 5 minutes before everybody else because 5 minutes before davening we have our first period class. i tried though instead of saying the 2 perakim of tehilim that the class says together - i tried starting davening while they r saying it but STILL they go way too fast! uch it gets really upsetting for me. thanks for ur suggestion,
|bjgirlwannabe||Posted - 20 September 2006 17:58
i know exactly how you feel! i go to b.y too and all we hear is to daven w/t Kavana but then at davening there is no time. A suggestion... explain ur problem to ur mechanechet and ask to end 1st period earlier so that you have more time to daven!
|talking 24/7||Posted - 22 September 2006 15:02
I KNOW!!!!!!! in my school, we daven in a minyan since we're coed, and its SOO annoying cuz they ZIP through. i mean, for selichos, i cant even finish by the time theyr up to chazaras ha shatz(AFTER selichos)! i mean, i decided to daven up to S"E at home, but i STILL dont have enopugh time! even when there isnt selichos, i mean, theres no point in them davening because really theyr just mumbling the words as if they just want to get it over with!!!!!!!! I HATE it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AH! i mean, i am always rushing to keep up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i HATE it!!!!!!!!! and i feel SO guilty, because today, i didnt have time to daven at home, and during selichos, i had to skip some, and i fell SOOO guilty!!!!
|wannabe||Posted - 29 December 2006 0:41
this is so how i feel!!!!! i mamish do not understand how they can even SAY THE WORDS that fast. like, how can they even get the words out of their mouth without garbling them?? and as for the issue with men at shul--i totally agreee. during the yamim noraim it actually is a LITTLE better, but the rest of the year its really very hard. why are we davening ANYWAY??? we are not coming closer to Hashem by seeing how fast we can finish korbanos. does ne1 have ideas for improving this????
|depressedAngel||Posted - 01 January 2007 14:11
when we told my pricipal that we didnt have enought time she gave us 10 more minutes (altho it came out of our lunch sorta-but that was completely our choice-there was no place else to take the time from) so maybe u shud try asking for more time
|bored613||Posted - 07 March 2007 19:54
I know what it's like not having enough time to daven. I always go to davening early, start ahead of time, daven through the prinicpal's daily announcements, and often even then I'm not done. We have breakfast after davening everymorning, so while everyone goes to davening, I stay in the shul davening(occasionally i dont have time for breakfast at all). the other thing, is that i sometimes have to skip parts of davening, and i just make it up at somepoint in the day
|FlippedOutFish||Posted - 16 July 2007 4:04
I need an answer im a slow davaner and i need more time to daven with the minyan so i have practical questions as what to do when i can catch up with minyan
1) When im saying tachnun lets say long 1 i can never finish with a minyan what should i do when they get up to opening aron Vyihi bnsoa aron .. brich shmaei should i stop tachnun or skip and daven those parts with a minyan or just contine with tachnun? should i stop for kadish?-can i say the words of tachnun during kadish but just answer?
If im doing nefilat apayim and kadish comes what do i do?
if im befor Vanachnu lo neda were u usually stand up after thos words and im ALREADY standing because the torah is out.. or kadish to i dit bak down get up right away??
2) What should i do if i daven in a mincha/maariv minyan that super fast and they wood daven maariv after mincha but im in tachnun or aleinu of mincha what do i do? skip tachnun or aleinu? (if i wont get minyan later or i might)??
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|Sdude1098||Posted - 02 June 2010 16:27
I BH thankfully found a kollel where they don't daven too fast, however at the end of shabbos, I always feel rushed. I enjoy saying tehillim at the end of shabbos because it feels special to me, but sometimes I'm reading a tehillim and I hear them starting a mourners kadash. It's troubling to stop midway and switch focuses like that but I suppose that's the best I can do? I'm not sure if that's correct though...
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