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JJM613 Posted - 27 July 2001 23:31
I have a question regarding the three weeks, nine days, and s'fira...
Whats the halacha for teenage girls shaving (including waxing, tweezing, whatever else) during:
-S'fira
-THe THree Weeks
-the nine days
thanks
MODERATOR Posted - 27 July 2001 23:38
Cosmetic shaving for girls is permitted.
Sas613 Posted - 06 September 2002 0:51
How can you just say that it is allowed when most rabbanim say it's prohibited?!
MODERATOR Posted - 06 September 2002 1:23
No, they dont.

(And even if they would, I'm allowed to be part of the minority, arent I?)

VaYoel Moshe Posted - 05 August 2005 1:20
BS"D

what is the deal with showering during the nine days? can one shower for Shabbos?

"Remember: Nothing begets wholeness in life better than a heartfelt SIGH"---Rebbe Nachman of Breslev ZTVK"L, Likutei Moharan I:8 (quoted in "The Empty Chair")

LOL-Moderator that always sighs :-)

MODERATOR Posted - 05 August 2005 1:29
You are allowed to take a shower if youre uncomfortably dirty. The aveilus requirement is not that you be filthy but rather that you not take showers for the sake of that comfortable and fresh feeling you get from taking one. But to take one to remove dirt is permitted, because we are today finicky in general about our cleanliness and therefore the threshold of discomfort that is requred for the aveilus is fulfilled even if we take such showers.

However, you should not use soap or shampoo if possible. If you need soap or shampoo to remove the dirt, then that too is permitted.

Showers for shabbos are permitted assuming that you normally take a shower every erev shabbos. The soap-and-shampoo rule applies to that shower as well.

HZ Posted - 07 August 2005 3:02
Do we not pasken like the majority unless there is an established custom not to or some special circumstances? I suppose this would only apply to established issues as contemporary ones would require time for a majority to be established.
MODERATOR Posted - 07 August 2005 3:14
Not really. Not in the way you mean, anyway. In a Sanhedrin, the minority of voters have to concede to the majority; with random poskim it doesnt work that way - the minority do not have to concede. And then theres the Q of who gets counted in the taly altogether. "Majority of rabbis" ruling one way - contemporary rabbis that is, not classic poskim or Rishonim - has no binding ramifications at all. That said, if somone cannot determine on his own what the haalchah is, in a case of a machlokes, he should follow the behavior of his family, and in the absence of that option, he should follow the greater of the rabbis invovled. You cannot consider all those who have an opinion to weigh in equally in a halachic dispute.
HZ Posted - 07 August 2005 14:48
Thank you.
mo Posted - 22 January 2006 12:43
**he should follow the greater of the rabbis invovled. You cannot consider all those who have an opinion to weigh in equally in a halachic dispute.**
Two questions :

1) What is the source ?

2) How to determine who's is greater?

MODERATOR Posted - 22 January 2006 13:11
The source is pretty much common sense -- when you ask a shailah youre relying on the Torah knowledge and ehrlichkeit of the posek, so why would you follow the smaller one over the bigger one? If I were to say that in a medical issue you should do what the bigger doctors say, or regarding your car problems you shoudl do what the greater experts say, that would be common sense, no?

Here that is even more the case. In YD 100, the pischei teshuva bringsd a disagreement in the poskim. SOme hold that if you ask a Rav A shailah, follow what he says, and he is wrong. unless you are asking one of the established poskim, you are considered a meizid. Others hold that even if a woman asks her friend and follwos what she says, and the frind turns out ot be wrong, she is nto a meizid, since she honestly, if foolishhly, believed that she was doing the right thing.

The idea that as long as a rabbi tells you something youre safe if you follow him is not correct.

So therefore, when Rav Shach ZTL was asked by a Yeshiva bochur what he should do in a case of machlokes haposkim, he told him (Michtavim Umaamarim Vol. 3 #213) that in the absense of a family tradition of following a given shitah - quote - "you should follow the posek that is a greater godol batorah." He adds: "And it is possible to know who is greater, for example, here in EY in many thigns we shouls follow the rulings of the Chazon Ish".

As far as how to tell who is greater, as Rav Shach says, it is possible, The problem is, when often use standards to identify Gedolim that skew our ability to know whos greater. I posted this 4 years ago:

Posted - 24 October 2001 19:38
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The trick here is to make an objective decision. This includes whether you are determining on your own if someone is a godol, or even if you want to determine who is a maven on who is a godol so you will have someone from whom to take direction.

A godol is someone whose Torah scholarship and righteousness are exceptional among the generation. Of course, he has to follow the derech of our previous Gedolim, the Mesorah of Klall Yisroel as well. That is pretty much unanimously the derech of the Chofetz Chaim, Rav Chaim Brisker, and their great contemporaries.

It does not include the following criteria:

(a) Who the Yated decides is a godol.
(b) Who the people who make "gedolim cards" decide who is a godol.
(c) Who has a lot of followers.
(d) Who is a popular and talented speaker.
(e) Who preaches policies that you agree with.

If you want to know if someone is a godol, think:

Is his scholarship level exceptional in the generation? Does his knowledge span all areas of Torah - shas poskim, halachah and hashkafa. And is his knowledge deep and sharp. Can he answer the difficult questions in Torah better than his contemporaries? Are his chidushim exceptionally sharp and sure? Can he decipher Torah diffiulties in an exceptional manner?

Then, what about his Tzidkus? Is he an exceptional Tzadik? If so, in what measurable way?

If he wouldnt be a rosh yeshiva or a rav, but a yeshiva guy learning in the Lakewood Kollel, would people look at him as such a great Tzadik and Talmid Chacham as theny do now? Or is it just cuz of his position that people inflate his status?

Does he violate the Torah? Does he follow a Rebbi of his? Does he have a "mesorah" going back to the previous generations whose derech he is following? Do other people of the above caliber hold he is a godol?

All of us, whether we admit it or not, all decide on our own who is a godol, of what criteria we are going to use to determine that. We ALL have our criteria that we decided on our own to use (even if we decide that we cant know who is a godol, we decide who will will believe when they say it). The trick is to use proper criteria.

It is also important for the person to be wise and sharp. It is definitely possible for a Godol to be uninformed, misinformed, or underinformed. The Satmar Rebbe ZT"L used to say that a Godol BaTorah can be naive as well.

The most we can do is to try our best. More than that, Hashem does not require from us. The above criteria are the ones to use. The trick is not to have Hashem tell us we should have put more effort into the decision.

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That was regarding how to identify a Godol B'Yisrael. Regarding whioch poskim are greater, there is also traditions in differnt communities regarding which poskim to follow in cases of disagreement. In the community that you seem to me to come from, you;d follow the Nodah B'yehuda, the Chasam Sofer, and Divrei Chaim over other poskim, while other communities would follow the Gra and R. Akiva Eger in instances of the same case.

But a I mentioned, the main thing is to make sure that you use the right criteria to determine greatness. A godol batorah mans osmeone who is great in Torah. Although that sounds simple, people tend to throw in other criteria - including politics, quite often - into the equation.

MODERATOR Posted - 22 January 2006 13:16
Just to clarify -- those community traditions regarding which poskim to follow are what Rav Shach means when he refers to "family mesorah" regarding the halchah.
yankeeinkneesox Posted - 28 August 2006 1:38
are you allowed to listen to say, baseball games during the 3 wks/9 days? i know you cant listen to music, but the music is 1. not live and 2. incidental - my listening, you're bound to listen to it, even if you didnt want to or mean to.
yesorno Posted - 22 July 2007 23:20
I know the nine days are almost over now, but two questions:

1) During the three weeks/nine days, is it permissible to listen to backround music - from an aerobics CD, for example? I asked a Rav this question during sefira, and the answer was yes. But someone just asked me this in the beginning of the week, and I had no clue!

2) Are you allowed to use new appliances - for example, a camera? I didn't buy it; it was bought for me as a surprise and mailed - when I got it, the thought that there might be a problem completely slipped my mind...

braids! Posted - 22 July 2007 23:20
But... it's known who the Gedolei Ha'dor are, isn't it? And if you can't ask a Rav, and then be confident that you're doing the right thing, then basically you can never be confident that you're doing the right thing! That's what I feel like I'm hearing, and I don't understand. What kind of questions are you referring to? The Rav of my shul, for instance, is not one of the Gedolei Ha'dor, but we still ask him shailos. And then there are big rabbanim in the community... Please, Rav Moderator, could you explain what you mean by what you wrote above?
FS613 Posted - 22 July 2008 15:18
Is it permitted to listen to Acapella during the 3 Weeks?

Thank you.
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