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ProudlyJewish Posted - 03 May 2010 21:17
Does it have say it on the box?
Is an OU sign enough?
What's it about?
I'm really confused.

Moshiach Now! :)

Hu hakol yachol Posted - 17 May 2010 22:48
In order to answer, let me define a few terms:
Yisroel - Jewish
Palter - factory
Akum - non-Jewish

There is something called "bishul akum" - without going into reasons/details (and there are many!) of the halacha, basically: something cooked (bishul) by a non-Jew (akum) is forbidden to eat.

A person would think that by extension of that halacha, there would also be a problem with baked[i] goods made by a non-Jew. However, this was not included in the original gezeira (decree) because bread is such a staple, and chaza"l knew that some people would not be able to keep this stringency. The above statement is true for "pas palter" - mass produced baked goods. Anything privately owned by a non-Jew is "pas akum," and is similarly assur (forbidden) to eat.

"Pas Yisroel" - baked goods made by a Jew (in this case, preferrably, not [i]necessarily[i] a religious Jew) - became more popular when it became easier to obtain. Most poskim allow "pas palter," especially when "pas Yisroel" of an equal quality is not available. Some poskim don't allow it, and some people take on a chumra (stringency) of eating only Pas Yisroel. Even if a person does not only eat Pas Yisroel, they should try and be stringent on Shabbos & Yom Tov, and during the Aseres Yemei Teshuva (ten days from Rosh HaShana to Yom Kippur).

"Pas" is any food which a person would have to wash on if they were kovei'ah seudah (eat a full meal) of it. Bread/bagels/cookies/crackers/cakes/pretzels/etc - anything made with the chamisha minei dagan (5 grains - barley, rye, oats, wheat, spelt). Cooked things (i.e. croutons, doughnuts, pancakes) aren't a problem of "pas palter/akum" - but they may be a problem of "bishul akum."

As to your question whether it needs to say on the package, etc - if it's a frum company, there's a good chance it's pas Yisroel. If it isn't, there's a good chance it isn't, unless it says so. It usually will say on the package. And no - sorry, but an ou (or any other hechsher) is not good enough if you are looking specifically for pas Yisroel.

Hatzlacha rabba! (much success)

taon Posted - 27 May 2010 16:22
These links should have what you need to know:

http://www.oukosher.org/index.php/common/article/ou_pas_yisroel_products/

http://www.star-k.org/kashrus/kk-issues-pas.htm


questions? go here:

www.frumteens.com/forum.php?forum_id=65

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