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jewishgirl1 Posted - 22 September 2009 13:57
I just wanted to point out something that I noticed. People who have habits such as nail-biting, biting off skin, plucking out hairs, picking scabs...(the list goes on) should try to get out the habits as quickly as possible. You are bound to be mechalel Shabbos! (c"v) There is no question about it. I keep on seeing people who do this and it really bothers me. What is more important to you? you or Shabbos???
look-upward Posted - 13 October 2009 15:39
You're right, but habits are generally done without thinking and hard to stop.
Matisyohu28 Posted - 13 October 2009 15:39
jewishgirl - i dont know if that's absolutely true. Ask any smoker - on shabbos, they're able to control themselves, because they know they have to. I have some habits which are assur on shabbos - i guess it is easy to fall into it though - oh well, just another reason to learn mussar!
emoticon Posted - 27 October 2009 19:07
Matisyahu-
But learning Bava Kama is living!
lol
jewishgirl1 Posted - 27 October 2009 19:07
Matisyahu- i agree with you about smoking. smokers can control themselves because it is a multiple step process. they have to get their lighter and click it, or take a match and strike it...

However, with nervous habits - they just go automatically....

Matisyohu28 Posted - 16 November 2009 22:32
I hear the chiluk - good point.
Mollie613 Posted - 13 December 2009 20:20
Can Rabbi Mod clarify this? What melacha do these habits fall under?
DannyBoy67 Posted - 16 December 2009 17:38
The mishna brurah in his preface to chelek 3 quotes the tumin that says its nearly impossible not be mechalel shabbos unless one learns the halchos very well.

Biting nails, ripping off skin or pulling hair fall under the melacho of gozez. Its a machloches whether its assur min hatorah or m'derabonon (depending on whats considered the normal way to cut nails, peel skin etc.)

However, there is a concept called misakek- doing a melecho with out paying attention to what you're doing, i.e. spacing out while biting your nails. This will also mitigate the severity of the issur to a non d'oraiso. This is true bec. in order to violate shabbos via doing a melecho, its needs to be a meleches machsheves- a melacho done with some sort of intention/ awareness.

Side note: habits are very difficult to break. If you notice someone doing something out of habit that is assur, ask a Rav before correcting him. If this person isnt able to break the habit, he will now be held more accountable min hashomayim for his aveira because he is aware about the issur.

taon Posted - 24 January 2010 21:19
probably cutting
JewishAndProud! Posted - 12 May 2010 15:37
jewishgirl1, you are so right. I will really try hard to stop.
Thanks so much!

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