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E6M1E3S Posted - 01 June 2009 1:30
I believe in the Torah. I really do. Some laws, however, I question.
Is that normal for me to question the Torah?
Sometimes I feel like I can't question the Torah, because people would be shocked.
Please respond!! Any other people who feel like I do?
MODERATOR Posted - 01 June 2009 19:43
If you ask in order to know, and accept that you may not get answers right away, it's fine. more than that, asking is the basis of learning. If someone asks derisively, or abandons everything the first time he has a question, that's not truly asking.
Feel free to ask whatever you want to know.
josh1 Posted - 09 June 2009 20:50
YES! It is 1000000% normal. In fact I woould say its strange if you had no questions. Unfortunately some teachers make it seem like a bad thing. Its not bad, you would just like to understand. Try to read books by R' Avigdor Miller. One in particular (I forget the name but its something like "rejoice o youth") answers many questions people have. Also maybe a book by R' Daniel Mechanic.

Matisyohu28 Posted - 09 June 2009 20:50
Reb akiva aiger questioned all the time, as did tosfos, and every other person, let alone gadol, committed to authentic learning - the entire gemora is kasha after kasha, rishonim too, across the board, ask kashos on the gemora, on mishnayos; this is a key difference between judaism and most other religions; you're encouraged to ask as many honest questions as you can think of; it's considered a kovod to ask a good kasha, to amke the rebbe think about it, to be the one in shiur who the rebbe says to 'tosfos asks that kasha!', etc.., one of the proofs to the torah, a very convincing one in my opinion, is that we question everything - never passively sucking up information, but tenaciously and aggressively applying ourselves to find the emes - I dont think you find committment to emes anywhere else in the world, in any religion, or science field; 'the seal of hashem is truth', is a defining characteristic of our people.

Mussar teaches you how to live. But learning bava kama is living! - Rav Avigdor Miller ZT'L

Matisyohu28 Posted - 09 June 2009 20:50
Questioning the torah frequently, in the sense of 'is this from hashem?' is not wise, since it's sort of like a biologist constantly asking 'do microscopes really work? or am I just seeing a bunch of dust in the viewfinder?' - once you get answers to why we believe in the torah, the questioning goes from a legitimate desire for knowledge, to the yatzer hora trying to destract you - there's no mitzvah to break yourself over kashes in emunah; most of them you wont figure out on your own anyway; find a rabbi who knows hashkafa(like our moderator) and can answer your questions, but they must be honest, and not cynical, biased, etc.., like a question for instance about morality in the torah - people ask how can g-d want people to die for X averah, etc.., these type of questions are not honest, because the moment a person starts visualizing hashem being mean, or thinking about the averah from hashem's perspective, he's a kofer beikkar, since he thinks he can understand hashem - those kind of kashes you'd best just steer cvlear of, since they're not rational questions on torah, but rather based on an immature form of kindness and mercy, as well as a notion that suffering cannot be a good thing. Other questions, such as seeming contradictions in the torah, and other things that we have an understanding of, are of course positive and crucial to ask.
JewishAndProud! Posted - 09 June 2009 20:50
You're so cute :)
It's normal for people to question the TORAH...and, in my opinion, a good sign.
"Inquiring minds wish to know."
You should see the serious questions my classmates and I ask to our teachers! I hope that they wont freak you out!
I'll give you a BRACHCA! May all your questions be answered in the end. (AMEN!)

The user name says it all...

E6M1E3S Posted - 09 June 2009 20:50
Thanks, Moderator.
I feel a bit better now.
I have a question about capital punishment. The Torah believes in killing a person for certain sins. I...question this. How will the person learn from his mistake if he is killed? It doesn't make sense and it seems as if you are killing the person for no reason!
MODERATOR Posted - 09 June 2009 22:06
If there was only one world, maybe it wouldn't make sense. But after the guilty person is killed, his neshoma goes on. And that neshoma needed to be cleansedin order to be able to experience olam habah. What he did required more than teshuvah, more than punishments during life to cleanse. it could only be cleansed through death, or gehinnom.
E6M1E3S Posted - 16 June 2009 18:17
Thank you all!!
Matisyohu--but if you don't ask about the Torah, how can you fully accept it upon yourself?
hypothetically speaking, of course, are you saying that a person who follows the torah, and doesn't believe in it at all, should not ask questions?
by not asking questions and by not being more open about this subject, people could live in fear! we are supposed to love hashem and his torah.
i believe that it is crucial for a person to ask questions, bec its what makes you understand yourself as a jew!
ProudlyJewish Posted - 12 August 2009 18:07
It is always better to question than to live in doubt.
Troublemaker Posted - 20 August 2009 19:21
the torah knows exactly how and y a person gets punished!i had a similar question,i said dat i think the torah's ppunishemts seem so "medieval" so my teacher said, that the torah KNEW if the person will not be punished with this certain punishemt then he'll neva get better! he gave an example:NEVER in the whole toirah is anyone in prison and no/1's punishment-EVER-is prison.why?coz the toirah knows that ur personality will NOT improve through going to prson.look at all the bad ppl hu go 2 prison and come out nowadays-r they beta?NO!they go on murdering and doing evil things!
hope this helps a lil-it any case helped me...
Matisyohu28 Posted - 16 September 2009 15:22
I never understood the comment about torah that certain things are 'medival' - it's actually a lot lder than the medieval era; far older. The medieval era was basically the time of the rishonim - were, ironicaly, there was no misas beis din. Misas beis din ended a thousand or so years before the medieval era began. Not only that, but far better than, say, america, only once in a lifetime was someone killed(it was nearly impossible to have hasraah and the maysoh done toch ceday dibur, then to have the right amount of votes in sanhedrin, the right aidus, it's very very hard) - in america people are killed left and right, and are left to rot and deteriorate in jails where they're raped and become totally immoral. In yiddishkeit, you do the crime - you get a punishment that G-d says suits it; whether it's malkus or misa, the punishment never takes longer than a few minutes; then it's over, and the person has his kaparah. plus, the beis din always wanted to get the guy off the hook - they would always try to find some way to get him off. Reb Akiva famously said that if he had been the av beis din, no one would have been killed, since he had this lomdus about eidus that was impossible to fulfill - lefi shitas reb akiva, misas beis din would just take on the status as ben sorer umorer; the torah put it there to darshen it up and to be mekeabel schar; this seems like pshat, even thugh i havent seen it anywhere.
rationalb Posted - 16 September 2009 15:22
matisyohu, you seem to be contradicting yourself when at first you say that Judaism celebrates the asking of questions in pursuit of truth, and then say that certain questions simply should not be asked because they speak to the core matters of faith. How could you claim to be committed to truth if certain questions are off limits to begin with? What makes Judaism so much more compelling than other religions if it makes the same demand of blind faith that they do?
taon Posted - 05 January 2010 2:07
He is saying that once you know the truth,it doesnt make sense to ask what is the truth.
qazwsxedc Posted - 10 February 2010 16:04
i think u can question the torah because otherwise how can u understand anything? i think its very nessassery to ask
Singirlie Posted - 02 March 2010 16:05
O.k. since all of you r really good at answering these questions,i have another one. we go around saying about how the Nazis were terrible, wich they were, and how they used propaganda to brainwash people. i beleive in a higher powere,and i am totally beleive in hashem. but yuo know those Ani Maamins?? they are propaganda? you know brachos? we say that to constantly remind ourselves of a terrifying god who will punish me if i dont constantly remember him. arent we being brainwashed to???
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