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unhappiness Posted - 14 November 2007 7:11
i want to go to michlalah but my parents dont let. Funny thing is this summer they were all into me going and now they spoke to my sister ( who soen't know me) and she said its not for me... what type of place is it? DEADLINES ARE SOON...
icecreamlover Posted - 21 November 2007 13:58
I just happened to look in this forum, and i sorta see why u posted this here. But i suggest posting this in the seminary thread...i think u'll get a lot more responses. (Sorry, i don't know much about Michlala.)
Torah=MayimChayim Posted - 22 November 2007 4:40
Unhappiness, I suggest you try the sem forum. Hatzlacha!
JewishAndProud! Posted - 11 January 2009 19:09
It's your life. Not your parents.
If you are eligible to go to Seminary. You must be 18. Your an adult-these decisions are yours to make. Tell your parents that. Ask for their support. Say that you know what type of person who want to be, and say that Milchalah will help you be that person! Say it very respectfully! (As a mature adult) Then they will listen to you.

The user name says it all...

Matisyohu28 Posted - 15 January 2009 20:20
jewishandproud - there is an inyan of kivud av, and if it is not an issue of frumkeit, there might be a chiyuv (dont want to pasken) to listen to one's parents.

The mitzvah of kivud av does not end at 18.

Mussar teaches you how to live. But learning bava kama is living! - Rav Avigdor Miller ZT'L

emoticon Posted - 15 January 2009 20:20
JewishAndProud:

I'm gonna copy something that I posted in the seminary forum. I don't intend to sound agressive or anything, k? I just wanted to make a point...

Yes, it is your life. But it is your parents' twenty grand. Twenty thousand dollars is an awful lot of money. And twenty thousand dollars is not coming to anyone. However nicely we do our chores, our parents do not owe that to us.

So seminary is a gift. And it isnít a cheap gift. Twenty thousand dollars is more than a car. Now if your parents bought you a car for your graduation giftÖ!

Most girls have goals for their seminary experience. (Hopefully.) And most objectives would fit under the general title of Torah. And while I haven't fully internalized this, I know the phraseology: Derech Eretz Kodmah LíTorah.

You write that any eighteen year old is eligible for seminary. I disagree. There is another requirement.

Seminary is for big girls who realize the enormity of their parentsí chesed. Seminary is for girls who appreciate the value of the sacrifice. Isnít that the prerequisite?

It isnít a right. We are not entitled. At least, Iím not. Seminary is for anyone who can graciously accept it.

Of course, it is a life changing decision. But all of the options- ALL OF THEM- are privileges, and not rights.

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